Friday, August 31, 2012

Grumpy Old Fan | Tainted love

Grumpy Old Fan | Tainted love

In happier times

Serialized storytelling provides superhero-comics publishers a pretty handy buffer. Anything can be judged unfairly, perhaps even after the whole story has been collected. Don't like a preview image? Wait until the issue itself comes out. Don't like how the story is going? Wait for it to end, so you can evaluate it in a more proper context. Don't like how the story ended? Hey, at least you got the thrill of following it issue by issue.

There will always be a certain distance between fans and professionals, simply because the pros know where the stories are going and the fans can only make educated guesses. The previous paragraph's view of it may be cynical, but I don't think it's too far off. Beyond nostalgic, blue-sky wishes for publishers to stop aiming low, and for fans to stop assuming the worst, I don't have any easy solutions. Sometimes I just wish these sorts of observations weren't necessary.

Having said all that, I'm not going to call the latest Superman/Wonder Woman pairing (in this week's Justice League #12, as you might have heard) The Dumbest Thing DC's Ever Done. I'm not sure it's even in the Top 20. Heck, I'm not sure it's the dumbest thing DC's done in the past 12 months.

What I will say is that it misses the point.

In fact, it misses a number of points:

1. Superman isn't about 'having it all.'

The thing about Superman is that ultimately, his powers don't matter; he'd act the same without them. In fact, in a very real sense, 'Superman' is just the most visible expression of Clark's desire to do good. Now, this is not to be confused with the different approaches to Clark's public persona. In the Silver Age, 'Clark' became an elaborate fiction, designed expressly to dispel any notion that a certain well-known journalist could also be an omnipotent superhero. Since the 1986 revamp, though, Clark's Kryptonian origins were downplayed, such that he thought of himself (understandably) as a human being, and aspired to be the best example thereof. We might argue about which version of Clark was the more humble, and therefore the less likely to elevate himself to messianic status, but such an event would be equally improbable in either case.

The point is that Clark/Superman is humble, and he doesn't consider himself entitled to any more than anyone else. However, apparently such a perspective is difficult for fans (and perhaps some professionals) to understand. Instead, they may find Superman boring for not being sufficiently self-indulgent, and therefore not allowing them to live vicariously through him. Accordingly, to the extent that anyone believes Superman must be with Wonder Woman because no other woman is good enough, he misreads fundamentally the bulk of the character's portrayals.  (To be sure, this is not how JL #12 plays out, but the preliminary publicity has not exactly repudiated it.)

Almost all of Superman's most significant relationships are with non-powered humans (pretty much necessarily, but still). Ma and Pa Kent first helped him connect to humanity. Chris Sims can probably tell you more, but I think Superman sees a lot of his own youth in Jimmy Olsen. Perry White personifies everything Clark wants to be in a journalist, which for Superman is as much a calling as it is an easy way to be close to the action. Batman and Superman are kindred spirits, despite their different approaches, and Batman has also trained non-super body and mind to the upper limits of their potential. Conversely, Lex Luthor represents the dark side of human potential: great power and ambition used only selfishly. Finally, Lois Lane embodies all of the others' positive qualities ' a great journalist who never rests on her laurels and never stops working for the greater good. In the 25 years since the 1986 revamp, she had become Superman's strongest link to his humanity, perhaps even more so than the Kents.

This is not to say that Superman has no significant relationships with super-powered people. However, those relationships tend to show how sometimes, he just needs to be among others who can do what he can. His time with the Legion of Super-Heroes, and his first encounters with the New Gods, are examples of this. So too are his relationships with other Kryptonians, although those carry the weight of their shared loss. Until her death in Crisis on Infinite Earths, Superman and Supergirl were especially close, since (notwithstanding unusual communities like the Bottle City of Kandor or the Phantom Zone) they had only each other to carry on Krypton's legacy. Nevertheless, to one extent or another, Superman has always been more concerned with his Earthly life ' and Lois has always been a big part of that.

2. Wonder Woman is on a mission.

For me, the biggest difference between Superman and Wonder Woman is that while Superman shares some traits with Biblical figures, he's not really out to bring Kryptonian values to an unenlightened world. However, Wonder Woman's main gig is just that. Whether you call it Paradise Island or Themyscira, or Man's World or Patriarch's World, Princess Diana was sent to show the latter what it could learn from the former. Superman's ethics come from Middle America, but Wonder Woman's come from Someplace Else ' and that gives her an edge that he should never have.  ('There's the door, spaceman.')

Make no mistake, that edge has defined Diana since her debut. The Amazons got in trouble in the first place because Hippolyta trusted Hercules a little too much, so Wonder Woman was given the power to avoid getting fooled again.

Thus, it's a little dissonant to realize that Diana first got the bug to leave home because of a man ' Steve Trevor ' crash-landing on her doorstep. Steve's inelegant arrival also brought with it news of the wider global conflict we call World War II, which convinced the Amazons that maybe they should get involved in beating back the Axis (and the forces of the war-gods who were allied with them). Still, for decades Steve was Diana's Lois, facilitating romance and rescue in equal parts. As with Superman, a 1986 revamp changed things; but where Lois eventually married Clark, Steve got pushed to the background, eventually settling down with Etta Candy (who had long since grown past her own Jimmy Olsen-ish role).

Even Steve's place in the origin story was downplayed. As told by George PĂ©rez and Greg Potter in Wonder Woman Vol. 2 #1, a dire warning from Olympus about Ares mucking in human affairs prompted the Amazons' choose-a-champion tournament. Steve's appearance in Issue 2 confirmed that Ares was on the move, and Diana's mission was about to start. (For its part, Justice League #12 reveals that Diana helped Steve 'escape' from the Amazons, something about which I presume we'll learn more in Wonder Woman #0.)

As a result, for most of the past 25 years, Diana's romantic side hasn't really been explored. Instead, the texts have doubled down on her duties as a diplomat and ambassador. In fact, writer/artist Phil Jimenez created the short-lived (literally) Trevor Barnes, a United Nations functionary, to be Diana's boyfriend. Most recently, before the New 52 relaunch, Diana got pretty serious with super-spy Tom 'Nemesis' Tresser. Another intriguing sort-of pairing involved Aquaman, because they both balanced superheroics with royal responsibilities. Unfortunately, Flashpoint twisted this notion into one of the darker cornerstones of its nightmarish backstory.

Indeed, Flashpoint still offers an unwelcome cautionary tale about the wrong way to write Wonder Woman. In a world where whatever could go wrong probably has, Wonder Woman and her sister Amazons declared war on humanity, believing their queen to have been assassinated by Aquaman's Atlantean forces. Regardless of the cause, however, this allowed the Flashpoint writers and artists to have Wonder Woman cut loose, ostensibly to show how cool, hardcore, and/or scary she could be. Whether intentional or not, though, this reinforced the notions that a) Wonder Woman needs to be ultra-violent in order to be cool, and b) nothing's scarier than an angry woman.

Now that Amazon history has been revised to make them more warlike (and apparently more bloodthirsty) in general, it's not too much of a stretch to suppose that Superman needs to watch out, or else risk setting off the nigh-omnipotent Amazon Princess. This is a real concern, because the attention-getting thrill of breaking such a narrative taboo is nothing compared to the fannish pleasure of restarting a cherished relationship. DC may say it's not happening anytime soon, but before you know it, Superman and Lois Lane will be back together ' and that means Superman and Wonder Woman have to exile themselves to the Friend Zone. However, if Geoff Johns and company use a bad breakup to justify internecine conflict in the upcoming 'Trinity War' ' that is, if part of 'TW' hinges on Wonder Woman being scorned ' I don't see how the New-52 setup recovers.

3. Wonder Woman is not a sidekick.

Because Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang's New-52 Wonder Woman has been so iconoclastic, or at least so removed from the rest of the superhero line, this particular coupling feels especially stunt-y by comparison. Even as Geoff Johns and company have reintroduced Steve and Etta (and will soon bring back the Cheetah) in the pages of Justice League, its version of Wonder Woman has been fairly generic, existing mostly to provide the required beatdowns. Before Issue 12, Johns had described Diana's relationship with Steve in a few oblique, expository sentences here and there. The current issue goes a little further, giving them a couple of pages (or so) worth of interaction. It's enough to set up a we-can't-be-together plot point, which in turn facilitates a Significant Moment between Wonder Woman and Supes. I'm not sure it works even in the shorthand-characterization of Justice League, and I really can't connect it with Azzarello and Chiang's more fully formed character. Wonder Woman's brief appearance in Batwoman #12 feels more authentic.

Again, I expect Wonder Woman #0 to shed more light, but it makes me wonder how much coordinating Johns did with Azzarello. Before this all came down, Azzarello told CBR:

Let's just say that I have fielded calls about her being in some other books right now, but I think her just being in Wonder Woman and Justice League is enough right now. It's so important to establish her and build her as a strong character. Once that's all done, then she can go guest star in somebody else's book. But let us finish what we're building right now, first.

Oddly enough, there is a lot more freedom with Wonder Woman than there would be with Superman or Batman. There is a lot more freedom. I am allowed to say, 'No, let's keep her out of other books right now.' You can't say that with Superman and Batman. Superman was in the first issue of Swamp Thing, for Christ sakes. Why was that? To get people to buy Swamp Thing. [Laughs] With Wonder Woman, we're allowed to be a little insular. It's not going to last. We can already feel the pressure.

By now I'd say the pressure has gotten pretty great. Ironically, the freedom Azzarello mentions ' which neither Superman nor Batman can enjoy ' may well come from the longstanding ambivalence about how to handle Wonder Woman. (Yet another take, this time from Grant Morrison, is apparently on the way.)  While I've not been entirely happy with the New-52 Wonder Woman, by and large I think it's a well-crafted book, and its approach deserves some deference.

It should therefore go without saying that the new romance must not risk subordinating Wonder Woman to Superman ' but if either party to this relationship is going to be subordinated, or (as described above) is going to end up looking bad, I'm not betting on the Man of Steel. After all, freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

4. The Justice League is a team of equals.

For longer than I care to remember, I have argued that the Justice League isn't just a group of A-list all-stars, it's an opportunity to blend disparate storytelling styles. In the context of a League adventure, space opera and classical mythology can coexist alongside science-based heroes, pulp-derived urban avengers and magic-users. Those characters normally play by their own rules, but in the Justice League those rules can change, blend, or be thrown out altogether. Above all, though, the characters who make up the League must stay true to themselves ' i.e., as they appear in their own books ' because to do otherwise (yes) misses the point of the book.

Needless to say, this is a big part of my frustration with the New-52 Justice League. As much as I think this romance is a bad idea, if it had arisen in the context of the Wonder Woman book it'd be somewhat easier to take. That it comes out of Justice League, which so far has had the superficial quality of action-figure play, makes it feel grafted onto the characters. It's not just that nothing in their respective histories argues for the relationship ' nothing in the New-52 especially argues for it either.

And with that we come full circle, because the inevitable response will be 'but this is all-new, full of wide-open possibilities we are just beginning to explore,' etc. That's fine for what it's worth, I suppose. Remember, if you don't like This, wait 'til you see That ' and The Other will blow you away!

Regardless, having read Justice League #12, I can say that it doesn't make the case for a Superman/Wonder Woman romance. The burden of proof might be high, but that's because the risks are so great. Without sounding too much like an inadvertent advertisement, the very fabric of the New-52 may rest on an amicable separation. Here's hoping all involved know what they're getting into.

  • August 30, 2012 @ 04:00 PM by Tom Bondurant
  • Tagged: Brian Azzarello, comic books, DC Comics, Flashpoint, Geoff Johns, grumpy old fan, justice league, lois lane, Steve Trevor, superman, Wonder Woman

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I must be the only old school fan who liked the kiss. It made total sense to me given the characters as they are being presented now. And I can live with those characters.

SUPERMAN AND WONDER WOMAN A RELATIONSHIP THAT FINALLY MAKES SENSE

With the recent announcement that Superman and Wonder Woman would be a couple, many comic book enthusiasts have either applauded the move or denounced it. You can count me in with the ones who applaud the move for the very simple reason that superhero and non-superhero pairings tax my suspension of disbelief. The reason that DC prints comic books is to make money. So it therefore does not bother me that they think this will stimulate interest. There have been pairings of heroes that have NOT resulted in one hero overshadowing another. It can be done! For example Susan Richards of the Fantastic Four actually emerged as a solid member and some may say heart of the team in her own right and she was initially overshadowed by three male superheroes in her life including her husband. Storm of X-Men fame, married Black Panther and represents another strong character that has garnered bigger name recognition that T'Challa.

Furthermore, which character is MORE likely to be seen by the comic reading public as Superman's equal ' Lois Lane or Wonder Woman. I could make the argument that Lois Lane represents a weak expression of women BECAUSE she must always be saved and is clearly NOT the equal of Superman. (Not even morally ' as he seems to always be the more moral character of the pairing). If Wonder Woman can have a relationship with Superman and not be overshadowed by him that would validate her place as a feminist icon. Many seem to be already resigned to the idea that it cannot happen and I am unsure why. Sure it is the responsibility of the writers, but I think they deserve a chance to represent the two as equals'a notion I don't think could or has ever happened with Lois Lane which is ultimately what feminism is about and partly what Wonder Woman should be about. I think that comic book based movies have been ahead of the curve in that respect perhaps because there is a sense that if the world of comics could be brought into the real world those situations would just not be plausible. For example'it did not work in the Superman movie series between Superman and Lois for exactly the reasons it would not work in life. The very same issues plagued Spiderman in the first three Sam Raimi movies as well as Batman in Christopher Nolan's universe in which Bruce Wayne's love interest demanded that he leave Batman behind before they could be together. For this and many other reasons the only justification to have a hero and non-hero relationship in comic or movies should be to demonstrate why they would never work out. To facilitate this, here are my TEN reasons why the most 'realistic' pairings in comics should be between Superheroes and NOT with non-superheroes (mortals).

1)The mortal of any superhero/mortal pairing becomes an instant target for the hero's enemies creating another weakness. Even when using a secret identity they cannot hide it forever or at least run a great risk in attempting to do so. Therefore having a relationship with a mortal knowing this is irresponsible.
2)A crisis may occur at any moment and on any scale and a mortal would have to deal with continuous disruptions of their lives as heroes respond to these crises.
3)Who knows if or what kind of children would result. Even assuming they are also human such as in the case of someone like Batman, his children would almost certainly have to deal with an absentee parent.
4)It would cloud the hero's priorities, morals and/or obligations (see Superman going back in time and violating a rule from his father to save one person in Superman the Motion Picture).
5)There is a built in imbalance in responsibilities in that mortals (most of the time) need to be saved and rarely are they the ones who are saving. Superheroes can usually help each other.
6)Mortals ground heroes to humanity whereas with the awesome responsibility given their powers, a hero needs to be BETTER than mortals. (For example if a mortal has a bad day and takes it out on someone, that is confrontational but usually not much more than that. If a hero has a bad day and takes it out on someone it can be deadly)
7)Since being a hero and the awesome responsibilities of that role defines a large portion of who the hero is, a mortal will never be able to adequately relate to what a hero must endure.
8) Superheroes must always practice restraint or they could unintentionally harm their mortal partner (See Wolverine accidently stabbing Rogue after having a bad dream in the X-Men movie. In fact it was only because she had superpowers herself that Rogue was able to save herself). That risk alone makes accepting a mortal as a companion imprudent.
9)Depending on the hero and their powers, in some cases, intimacy would be compromised or unusual.
10)There would always be a specter of developing an inferiority complex on the part of mortals or a superiority complex on the part of heroes'and it would be more or less accurate.

Nice article Tom' valid points.

'Kiss or no-kiss', I don't care' that's beside the point.

What really bugs me in Justice League is the poor writing and bad character development.

I see it this way:

If Superman exists in a vacuum (that is, Superman qua Superman, not Superman as part of the DCU), then Lois Lane is his logical pair. She's been built up as his romantic interest for decades, she's married him on Earth-2 and eventually the post-Crisis DCU, she's been his love on the cartoons and in the movies, etc. She's part of the God-and-man united archetype, and as a storytelling character, has no purpose outside of being Superman's love interest. (This comment may get me in trouble with some feminist readers, so let me clarify that this is not a statement about women in general. I'm speaking strictly in storytelling terms: Superman and Lois Lane make no sense without each other. Lois, in particular, makes no sense without Superman.) Grant Morrison really hammered this home in All-Star Superman and, to a lesser extent, in DC One Million.

However, IF Superman exists as part of a world-building scheme (which the Marvel cinematic universe has been so good at doing), then we may be stuck with Wonder Woman as Superman's logical pairing. They're 2/3s of a multimedia trinity, they're superhuman equivalents, they're probably both immortal. Lois will eventually die; Superman will likely be around for a long, long time. (Hence, there was a weird logic to Superman and Wonder Woman hooking up in Kingdom Come, especially since Lois was dead.) In a big, broad DCU, Lois is just a well-known woman on the street compared to the superhuman pantheon which dominates the scene. You'd want Superman and WW to get together the same way people wanted Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney or Robert Pattison and Kristen Stewart to get together'it's pure celebrity pairing, but it's what people want.

I think this is ultimately a bad thing'it adds an unfortunate element to Superman's mythos that people will remember for decades ('Hey, remember when Superman and Wonder Woman hooked up?'). This will hurt in the long run. However, comics always gravitate back to their iconic status'so it's awful, but it won't last either.

@Patrick'I think it's only fair to respond to your eloquent, carefully constructed points with some meager responses of my own:

In your argument to show that superheroes should marry and be in relationships with other superheroes, you name two examples: Reed Richards and Susan Storm of the Fantastic Four, and the marriage between Black Panther and Storm. First of all, the reason why Reed and Susan's marriage works is NOT because they are superheroes; it's because they were specifically created to be members of the Fantastic Four comic which is all about showing a team of superheroes as being a literal family (hence why it is one of the few comics that actually allows a comic book couple to have children because it doesn't ruin the basic premise of the book). And as for Black Panther and Storm? That was considered overwhelmingly unpopular even by the folks at Marvel in part because it did precisely what some are fearing a relationship with Superman will do to Wonder Woman'it relegated one of Marvel's most iconic female characters into becoming a sidekick for a character who, let's be honest, could barely maintain an ongoing series multiple times. Fans (and apparently the writers) would have much rather have read about Storm, member of the X-Men, than Storm, Mrs. Black Panther.

You also mention how Lois and Clark's romance is one of inequality compared to one between Superman and Wonder Woman. While you have a point about Lois always being cast as the victim, there's one crucial thing to remember: Lois is a supporting character in the Superman comic books, meaning she'just like Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Lex Luthor, etc.'is in service to person whose name appears on the title. Wonder Woman was not. She was created to be a superhero in her own right, one who could stand side-by-side alongside all the other comic books that stared male superheroes. Her being romantically involved with any other superhero who has their own comic book series automatically undermines this very idea. And if you don't think she's going to be, here's a simple question: which comic book character, Superman and Wonder Woman, is the bigger cultural icon? It's Superman by several country miles. Notice how in most of the coverage for this it's SUPERMAN who is usually getting the top billing while Wonder Woman is described as 'Superman's new leading lady' or 'Superman's Sexy New Sidekick?' It's a safe bet to suggest that Wonder Woman is already being overshadowed.

Finally, with regards to your 10 points:

1. Like it or not, it's the love interest being in danger that creates drama and suspense in the story. Especially in Superman's case because we know he can't be easily hurt, but Lois and the people he cares about might. Also, with regards to a superhero being in a relationship with a mortal being 'irresponsible,' that's also for their love interest to decide, not a choice exclusively reversed for the superhero to make. (In fact, this is what often gets them in hot water with their love interests in the first place).
2. And what's wrong with that? Again, it creates drama in the story because it forces the hero to struggle between two different responsibilities'something which has been a very successful model in virtually every Spider-Man story and applied to other superheroes, including Superman. And after all, in real life this happens all the time, as any cop, firefighter, soldier, doctor, etc. can testify to. Superheroes aren't any different in that respect.
3. Again, sounds like a good recipe to create drama in the story if you ask me.
4. Same as 3.
5. Yes, but there also quite a few stories in which the reverse can take place. After all, how many times has Lois had to save Superman whenever he got exposed to Kryptonite?
6. If you follow this to it's logical conclusion, though, it suggests the rather unfortunate implication that only the 'strong' and 'beautiful' should be with the 'strong' and 'beautiful' and not 'lower their standards' by being with someone 'weaker' or 'less attractive' than they are. After all, it's the human supporting cast members who remind the superhero that just because he or she may be stronger, faster, or more powerful than the average person, it doesn't necessarily make them 'better' by default.
7. And in story, that again can be a source of great drama. Not to mention we, as readers, don't know what it's like to have the incredible powers of a superhero and yet we seem to have no trouble identifying with them as characters. ;-)
8. And again, that could be a source of drama in the relationship, or especially how they actually fight their villains. Superman, since he cares about humanity, has to purposefully hold back out of fear than someone will get killed in the crossfire'so how does he stop someone like Bizarro or General Zod who has no such reservations?
9. Which again, can be a source for potentially great drama because it tests both the hero and the love interest just how committed they are to the relationship. After all, there's far more to love than just being able to have sex.
10. And there's that word again: drama! It creates a challenge for the superhero to try and prove to their love interest they are truly someone special in spite of the fact they're mortals, and provides challenging ways for the love interest to provide emotional support for the superhero whenever he feels like he failed.

Wonder Woman and Superman as the' 'Oh heavens ' People just don't understand us' couple'.. AARRGGH!!!! ;(

If it were the real Superman and the real Wonder Woman, their romance might be significant.

But these nuDC Bizarro versions of Superman and Wonder Woman have so little substance that whatever they do is meaningless.

You are living up to 'Grumpy Old Fan'

I found the kiss organic to the situation, and very real. We can argue an ongoing relationship but until that it is written I'll wait.

From a marketing standpoint, goddammit I sold out of Justice League in a day, even over ordering for this issue. So congrats to DC for getting people to buy and hopefully READ a comic book.

But these are the Nu52 versions. Forget about those other examples, as these are different versions of those older characters.

Sometimes NU Superman seems like he's the most alien-like version of the character yet, even abandoning his Clark Kent identity for a few issues before it was reinstated through Batman. That's a far cry from his post-crisis incarnation where Superman WAS Clark Kent.

Wonder Woman appears just as alien. She has only been seen interacting with Steve and Zola; everyone else we've seen is not normal. Steve is a bad-ass normal, but WW isn't impressed and thinks he's a potential victim. Zola was already a target because of her baby. If she might think this way toward normal humans, it's a wonder why she goes along with Batman leading or being apart of the JL. (Maybe Bruce has proved that he could hang despite her misgivings?)

What's their Bradgelina name going to, that's what the papparazzi wants to know!

Goodness, no matter how this is written, it seems like so much fan fiction, and not part of the characters own stories. Why is there no mention of this in the Wonder Woman I am currently enjoying? I imagine there's a similar lack of this plot in the Superman books as well.

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Comics A.M. | Update on Cerebus negatives; rise of 'foodie comics'

Comics A.M. | Update on Cerebus negatives; rise of 'foodie comics'

Cerebus #26

Comics | Last week a building fire destroyed the negatives for Dave Sim's Cerebus: High Society, but George Peter Gatsis reports that more than half the 500 pages already had been scanned for the audio/visual digital edition (covering issues 26-50). For the other pages, Sim will be getting the best possible printed material and, hopefully, high-res scans. [Bleeding Cool]

Comics | Food writer Jon Watson addresses 'the rise of foodie comics,' singling out Chew by John Layman and Rob Guillory: 'It helps that the book is extremely well written, but I'm interested in a well-executed crossover of foodie culture into pop culture. It's not often that happens when it doesn't elicit a groan or feel forced. I think that, as food culture has grown of the last few decades, it is organically inspiring other art forms rather than feeling like an attempt at commercialization.' [The Atlanta Journal-Constitution]

From Gambit #2

Comics | Vocalist George Hage of the Raleigh, North Carolina, band Jack the Radio, who met artist Clay Mann at HeroesCon in 2010, makes a cameo as a security guard in Marvel's Gambit #2. 'I know it sounds trite, but when I first saw the page my jaw dropped a little and my heart was pumping,' Hage confessed. 'In my head I think I did a back flip.' [Music.MyNC]

Creators | With Image Comics about to launch a new, four-issue miniseries of his Multiple Warheads, Brandon Graham talks about the origins of the story (yes, the title is a double entendre), his manga influences and the world he has created: 'I think of it more as what a fairy tale Russia would grow into by the 1980s. They have cars and rock music on the radio. The idea is that there's no England or English-speaking countries in it. America is run by natives in totem pole robots, Japan is mostly in space and has a Dragon Emperor and France is run by knights in powdered wigs.' [Comics Alliance]

Creators | Artist Drew Geraci is profiled by his local newspaper. [Clayton News Daily]

Marie Severin: The Mirthful Mistress of Comics

Creators | James Romberger reviews the unfortunately titled Marie Severin: The Mirthful Mistress of Comics and discusses the significance of Severin's work. [The Hooded Utilitarian]

Comics | Tom Spurgeon passes along a comment from Rodrigo Baeza offering a theory as to why Marvel is insisting its Marvel Now initiative is not a reboot: To keep some titles from being emphasized at the expense of others. [The Comics Reporter]

Comics | Sam Henderson talks to some other creators and shares his own feelings about comics as a live performance. [The Comics Journal]

Conventions | Love and Capes creator Thom Zahler reports in on his trip to Star Wars Celebration VI. [Thom Zahler]

  • August 31, 2012 @ 06:55 AM by Brigid Alverson
  • Tagged: Brandon Graham, Cerebus, Cerebus: High Society, Chew, Clay Mann, comics a.m., Dave Sim, digital comics, food, Gambit, Greg Land, Image Comics, iron man, john layman, Love and Capes, Marie Severin, Marvel, music, rob guillory, Sam Henderson, Thom Zahler

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This weekend, it's Dragon*Con

This weekend, it's Dragon*Con

As many of us are gearing up for the long holiday weekend, an anticipated 50,000 fantasy, comics and gaming fans descend on Atlanta for the 26th Dragon*Con. The event includes this morning's annual parade down Peachtree Street, the masquerade and the Guest of Honor Awards Banquet.

As usual, the guest list includes a sizable comics contingent, including Neal Adams, Mark Bagley, J. Scott Campbell, Peter David, Kevin Eastman, Sean Galloway, Paul Jenkins, Dave Johnson, Stan Lee, Ted Naifeh, Dustin Nguyen, George Perez, Don Rosa, Bill Sienkiewicz and Bernie Wrightson.

Dragon*Con continues through Monday.

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Thursday, August 30, 2012

Phil Jimenez's JLA/Transformers crossover pitch was undeniably 'epic'

Phil Jimenez's JLA/Transformers crossover pitch was undeniably 'epic'

From the annals of 'Oh, What Might've Been' comes this doozy, courtesy of Brian Michael Bendis: art from Phil Jimenez 's pitch for a Justice League/Transformers crossover that, for some reason, never came about.

'Oh, what an epic that would have been,' Jimenez wrote last night on Twitter, saying to one follower, 'You missed out on Wonder Woman's invisible jet becoming a very cool Transformer.' You can get a peek of that in the image above, along with an enormous Bat-former and, perhaps best of all, Optimus Prime as a Green Lantern. (He added this morning, 'Giving credit where credit is due: the idea for Optimus Prime as a GL was none other than [IDW Publishing Editor-in-Chief Chris Ryall's].'

Jimenez also dusted off another piece of art featuring Prime wielding his power ring and Megatron clutching Superman's tattered cape, which you can see below. Hopefully the artist will offer more details about the pitch, and why it never went anywhere.

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Optimus Prime + Green Lantern. My mind is blown.

While I'm usually not a fan of Jimenez but sweet god it's refreshing to see the DC characters actually look like themselves instead of Wildstorm characters failing at cosplay. Good to see non Bayformed Transformers to.

Sounds like it would have been something fun and unpretentious. The idea of Prime and Superman teaming up would be many a childhood afternoon spent mixing my Super Powers collection with other toylines come to life for me. I even had once had a 'plot' where Brainiac took over a Shogun warrior (Great Mazinger actually). lol.

Damn, that is some great art and probably would have been a fun read. Could you just imagine hearing Peter Cullen saying the Green Lantern oath in his Optimus voice.

I would have loved to have read this, to bad, so sad.

I'm just going to blame this for not happening on DC because they are against fun. This needs to be revived and fast.

W.W. with an invisible Jet/Transformer..brilliant !

DO THIS NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW !!!!
WTF DC!? Marvel is circling you like VULTURES_ a CROSSOVER THIS EPIC would have REVIVED INTEREST IN ALL OF YOUR CHARACTERS!!! Who are your marketing people?! What the hell are they doing?!
DO THIS!!!

I would have loved to have read this, I'd buy it in a second. The artwork is great and I'm a sucker for anything Transformers, especially crossovers. And really why not, IDW and DC already published that Legion/Star Trek crossover so why not something that's actually cool?!

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Spiders are from Mars, but where are gorillas from?

Spiders are from Mars, but where are gorillas from?

Remember that time Gorilla Grodd fought KISS? Me neither, but that's my first thought when I saw this crazily ingenious new webcomic Glam Rock Gorilla.

Created by writer Brett Von Doom and artists Ser Tom The Blind, Astro-Sarah and Maya Nord, Glam Rock Gorilla is described as a 'cosmic comic rock opera', chronicling a petulant prima donna primate taking a groovy ride through space and fighting for the rock n' roll dream. The creative team just finished a first issue's worth of stories, and are already starting on a de facto second issue in this weekly comic.

Here's a mind-altering page to get you started:

 

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I'm diggin' it, thanks!

Ha ha ha' this is kind of awesome. It reminds me of a Joe Casey comic (definitely a compliment). Also, that is probably the best 'before the jump' image ever seen on this or any other blog.

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Quote of the Day | 'An absolute blight on modern culture'

Quote of the Day | 'An absolute blight on modern culture'

"Watchmen" panels re-lettered using Comic Sans

'What really bugs me is the letter 'I' in it because in comic books you only use the capital letter 'I', which is the one with the crossbars on it, for the first person pronoun. You never use it as a capitalisation of a word or within a word but I believe in Comic Sans that is the only letter 'I' that is available. So the whole thing always looks wrong to me. I think it's a blight, an absolute blight on modern culture.'

' Watchmen artist Dave Gibbons, whose lettering for the landmark 1986 miniseries helped to inspire
the widely reviled font Comic Sans, on the typographical terror he unwittingly helped to unleash on the world.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Comics A.M. | Steve Ditko won't be appearing at London convention

Comics A.M. | Steve Ditko won't be appearing at London convention

Steve Ditko self-portrait

Creators | Contrary to some reports this morning, reclusive comics legend Steve Ditko won't be a special guest at the second annual London Super Comic Convention, to be held Feb. 25-26 at the Excel Centre in London. A press release that circulated has been confirmed as a hoax. [ComicConventions, Bleeding Cool]

Publishing | Trajectory, publisher of the Classics Illustrated comics, announced at the Beijing Book Fair that it has begun publishing Chinese translations that will be available as ebooks. The first two titles: Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds. [press release]

Creators | Chris Giarrusso, who grew up reading comic strips and then 'graduated' to superhero comics, discusses the challenges of creating and marketing G-Man, his all-ages comic: 'There's a big market for kids' comics, but for the most part, you won't see it in comic shops with all the middle-aged men. Kids get their comics in bookstores and libraries. G-Man is available in Barnes & Noble and Amazon. Some comic shops do carry G-Man and successfully market books to young readers, but most comic shops do not support my work.' [Hero Complex]

The Sixth Gun #25

Creators | Cullen Bunn discusses the new story arc that's just getting under way in The Sixth Gun, as well as the fact that the series has a planned ending. [Comicosity]

Creators | Robot 6 contributor Chris Arrant interviews Leah Moore and John Reppion, the creators of the new Dynamite comic Damsels, in which the famous females of fairy tales team up to fight evil invaders. These damsels are not in distress, says Reppion: 'There's a lot of saving and being saved going on in Damsels but you won't find too many passively helpless, powerless female victims in the book. No-one is hanging round waiting to be saved, they're taking matters into their own hands, unless of course there's a bloody good reason not to.' [Newsarama]

Creators | Filipino artist Stephen Segovia started drawing talking dogs and cats for Funny Komiks at the age of 16, when he was being home-schooled; now, 13 years later, he is working for Marvel drawing X-Treme X-Men. [GMA News]

Creators | Gordon Harris of Annandale, Virginia, talks about his debut graphic novel Pedestrian. [Washington City Paper]

Manga | Publisher and critic Erica Friedman looks at the way manga is not only divided up by the gender and age of the intended audience but also caters strongly to that group, and discusses why it's important that yuri (lesbian romance) manga has broken free of that. [Okazu]

  • August 29, 2012 @ 08:00 AM by Brigid Alverson
  • Tagged: all-ages comics, Chris Giarrusso, Classics Illustrated, comcis creators, comic books, comic vonventions, comics a.m., Cullen Bunn, Damsels, dynamite entertainment, Gordon Harris, graphic novels, John Reppion, Leah Moore, London Super Comic Convention, manga, Marvel, oni press, Stephen Segovia, steve ditko, The Sixth Gun, Trajectory, yuri manga

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Superman and Lois' relationship? It's complicated

Superman and Lois' relationship? It's complicated

Even as the debate still rages over last week's revelation that Superman and Wonder Woman begin a romantic relationship in the new issue of Justice League, The Associated Press introduced a potential new wrinkle: that in DC Comics' New 52, not only have the Man of Steel and Lois Lane never dated ' something readers have known for more than a year ' but that they 'likely' never will.

However, a DC spokesman told Comic Book Resources the latter assertion 'definitely' didn't come from the publisher, which has characterized the story development as 'the new status quo,' one made possible by the year-old relaunch that wiped clean much of the history of the DC Universe.

'The way Geoff [Johns] unfolds the story and the implications of two of the most powerful characters in the DCU becoming a team is something that goes beyond the question of 'What about Lois and Clark?'' DC co-publisher and Justice League artist Jim Lee told The AP. 'This is a statement to every nation and geopolitical organization in the entire DC Universe giving creative teams ample material to explore this relationship on so many different levels.'

The contention that Lois is 'still around, but the two have never dated, nor are they likely to' isn't attributed to either Lee or Johns, and may have been a bit of extrapolation by the reporter. That said, it's easy to see how someone might arrive at that conclusion. After all, it's a sentiment expressed earlier this year by Superman Group Editor Matt Idelson in a Q&A on the Superman  Homepage, where he said, 'Clark and Lois are NOT inevitable, and in fact it isn't going to happen, at least while I'm on watch duty. There will be romance of varying degrees in both characters' lives in the months to come, but not with each other.'

It remains a sensitive subject for some fans of the traditional Clark-and-Lois relationship (for decades a love triangle, with Superman forming the third side) already annoyed that DC dissolved the 15-year marriage with last year's linewide relaunch, reintroducing Clark as a single man and Lois as a colleague who, in Superman #1, is dating Jonathan Carroll.

Justice League #12, featuring the highly publicized Superman/Wonder Woman kiss, goes on sale Wednesday.

  • August 28, 2012 @ 05:00 PM by Kevin Melrose
  • Tagged: Clark Kent, DC Comics, DC Comics: The New 52, DC relaunch, Geoff Johns, jim lee, justice league, lois lane, Matt Idelson, superman, Wonder Woman

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This isn't my father's Superman. It's not mine, either. Good luck, new readers!

Well'considering that it seems that 'Superman' is the real personae and 'Clark' isn't'this move makes sense. The new 52 seems to make Clark the mask to Superman unlike some past incarnations.

I've loved the idea of Kal and Diana since Kingdom Come. The match just makes sense. As much as I love the character of Lois Lane, I've been saying for years that if they really wanted to change up the Superman character or give him a real challenge to overcome they should have killed Lois. Preferably, during childbirth. But then they went and rebooted the whole universe, and so far, even though some things I don't like, I'm overall loving the ride.

The whole new status quo in Superman is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'm reading but wincing every other page.

DC should license its characters to someone who knows how to handle them. The longer Johns, Lee, and DiDio are in charge, the deeper the brand will sink until it's worthless.

And the joke rolls on.

I'm ok with Superman & Wonder Woman having a relationship if it's done right. I just can't imagine him never having a relationship with Lois. I think they are bluffing and trying to make it not so predictable but if they go this route they better be serious about Superman & Wonder Woman. If not forget it. This Superman already is a cold fish, barely human in his emotions (except Morrison's run). I don't know how he will develop his humanity without the Kents and Lois. Wonder Woman isn't exactly human herself. Kingdom Come did the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship justice and if it's anything like that I'm all for it, but even then it came after Lois was killed and he did have a relationship with her. They pretty much stripped him of all things that gave him his humanity and made him somewhat relateable. I know he's a God-type but the coolness of his character was he was always human at heart. They needed to do something with Superman though because as a loner he was boring and pathetic.

I've always been against the mask of Clark Kent or Superman not being the 'real' him. I always felt it would be best doing both as different aspects of his personality somewhat like Smallville in that he really was nerdish when you think about it. Longing for the girl next door, too afraid to make a move for years. Working on the school paper which is equal to a debate group or something along those lines. Even though he didn't wear glasses until the final season as his disguise he was still a nerd in a lot of ways. I also feel his Clark doesn't need to be the stumbling bumbling Clark but show enough of a difference that people wouldn't automatically think Clark = Superman. I say that having loved Christopher Reeve's Clark and Superman but I preferred the latter. As far as Clark Kent goes I preferred Smallville's portrayal of him best. And please no bowties on Jimmy Olsen or wigs on Lex. It's just lame and part of what turned me off to Superman Returns'

I'm really tired of comics undoing relationships though. It shows a lack of creativity and character growth. People can have longterm relationships or get married and have kids and still be interesting. Why can't comic book characters?

Okay I don't mind any of this happening but I just wish there was at least one comic out right now that was set in the pre new 52 universe. I liked the way marvel pulled of this Same kind of thing with the use of the ultimate universe. The new 52 is better than I expected it to be but man I just wish there a book out that was set in the original universe.

They've lost me. First, the erasing the marriage, next the new armor, er, uniform, and now no Lois and Clark. I have been a Superman fan since 1st grade (1965) when I first watched reruns of the 50's TV show. In all of these incarnations since then some things have remained constant ' the uniform had trunks (except for the electric Supes), and Lois and Clark/Superman were involved. Having Lois out of the picture and Wonder Woman in it removes a vital part of Superman's humanity. If he is involved with Diana on a personal and professional level, why does he even need to be Clark? With his parents dead and no human love interest, why even work at the planet. He could be a more effective Superman monitoring things from his fortress or the with the JLA and be a full time superhero when he and Diana are not together.
I wonder if this distancing from Lois (as well as the uniform change) are in preparation for potential negative ruling in the court case.

look at what they did with the rich history of Wally West. DC is dissapointing now

Clark and Lois will get together again eventually. It's not like Spider-Man where there's multiple love interests; Lois is the love interest for Superman. I guess they just want to put some clear blue water away from the marriage for the time being.

@ZenRonin: There are better ways to challenge Superman and make his stories interesting than to fridge the longest running female character in comics during childbirth. A plot point like that one carries with it way too much problematic issues related to gender and sexism. It would be a horrifically poor idea to put into practice.

Yawn

I feel bad for insecure longtime readers frightened by the idea that they now don't already know everything about the characters and where all the relationships are going. Oh no, the story could go anywhere! Terrifying!

I like the new Supes/WW relationship, it's like a 'duh' moment. Lois can enter the picture in the future, but resolving Clark's connection to Diana is a must. But I prefer Lana Lang to be the one to complicate things for the power couple. Hopefully Clark's past relationship with Lana is still there, ala Smallville TV history'

So, Mr. Majestic and Zealot are finally getting together.

Really? 'Likely never?' Do creators really have to keep going there?

I mean, it is too hard just to say 'Don't really know. We don't have any plans for that right now.' I'll never understand DC's insistence to alter relationships and status quo more on philosophy than actual reader interest.

@stk: It makes sense to be insecure, I believe, when you've been told point blank that actually, no, the story can't 'go anywhere.' When folks like Johns, Lee, DiDio, and Idelson either imply or flat out say Superman will not be dating Lois in the New 52, that's not leaving all the story options on the table. It's literally saying this is one way the story will not go.

Complicated like in copyright issues.The possibility of losing Lois Lane if the court judge doesn't rule in your favor type? Just saying.

I remember when DC rebooted after the first Crisis, John Byrne and George Perez approached the idea of Supes and WW dating and it was pretty quickly written off as something that wouldn't happen, for various reasons. I like the idea of them being attracted to each other- why wouldn't they be?- but Superman should always be with Lois in one way or another'

Ed Floden'get over yourself! I cannot stand comicbook fans who persist on a ridiculous theory that a character with little advancement (I mean, Clark Kent as Superman dying or retiring'never to return' will never be a true story in its' regular monthly) over a nearly 100 yr publishing history is somehow only legitimate when one of a million readers has his way.

I'm assuming you cried when they got rid of his red underwear outside of his costume as well right?

You are the definition of a boob sir.

Lois didn't really show much interest in either Clark or Superman in The Adventures of Superman in the fifties. There were a couple episodes, 'Mrs. Superman' in particular, where Lois might have shown some jealousy over another woman's interest in Superman but nothing came of it. It was a kids' show after all.

I don't mind that Lois and Superman aren't together in the current comics. As a pair, they had a good 25-year run after the Byrne reboot and 'Lois and Clark', following in the tracks of the first couple Chris Reeve movies, so if they want to pair him with Diana for a while, so what. Five years from now, some writer will sell his editors on the idea of revisiting Clark/Lois when readers have gotten bored with WW.

Can someone please get Waverider or one of the Monitors on the line? Hell, since DC clearly doesn't have any idea what to do with Hal Jordan anymore, have Parallax re-possess him and then kick off 'Zero Hour 2.' Erase this 'Pandora's Box' (oh, the irony!) of a crappy universe and let's go back to what we had. Outside of no one knowing what to do with Superman, it definitely wasn't broken.

The bottom line is, Geoff, Jim, and Dan can do this kind of (transparent) stunt all they want, and it won't matter a bit. More people will see the Man of Steel movie than will ever read their comics. More people know Superman from JLU or (God help us all) Smallville than the comics. DC hasn't been the dominant keepers of these characters for a long time. Marvel might be in a similar boat, but at least they can say that the Spider-Man in their books now is the same guy as the one from the 60's. There's an ongoing, continuous narrative there. New 52 Superman isn't the same as Post-Crisis Superman. Or Silver/Bronze Age Superman. Or Golden Age Superman.

The unpleasant side effect of rebooting is you lose any sense of legitimacy as the 'definitive' take on the character. If the version you're publishing can be wiped out in a reboot at any minute, you're just another take on the character like any other. And the other media are way more wide reaching and relevant in the mainstream.

Yep'

DC pretty much hasn't done anything but retcon every 5 years or so since the mid-1990s.

PATHETIC'
And if that weren't bad enough, they can't do anything with Superman but reinvent the origin 3 times within 12 years and come up with possibly one of the most bland incarnations of the character that's been since the early 1980s. No, I take it back ' Superman WAS better back then, too!

Even more pathetic? The editors and writers at DC are getting their butts kicked by the animation department. Those fellas know how to treat the classic characters. Too bad DC-proper missed the memo. Notice how Batman has taken a lot of cues since the mid-1990s from the animated incarnations of the past 20 years (and how DC publishing has RUINED Harley Quinn since they got their mitts on her in the DCU proper)?

There's no coincidence. All the new ideas and BEST reinventions have happened with the TV series since 1992!

Sorry, but have to agree with ChrisPV.

DC's big three boys (Johns, Lee, and Didio) can continue with the hype but it's really wearing thin with everybody but the 1990s crowd who are dazzled by possibly the worst character redesigns in a major's history and the most misguided relaunch' The emperor has no clothes and it's real obvious these guys have no clue on how to 'write the ship' as it were. But then again, fans of the 1990s era and 20-somethings don't have a clue on what's been thrown away. Most have never bothered to find and read the older pre-1990s material besides maybe 'Watchmen' and 'The Dark Knight Returns'. I pretty much saw this on display at a con the past weekend, btw.

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NuDC/52 has been pathetic since Day One. It is the definition of bland and pedestrian. It lacks the majesty and history that once populated an entire multiverse before 1986' Too bad political correctness and multiple conflicting agendas have ruined what was once a rich mythos ' one that can only be enjoyed now in back-issues, reprints, or the next DC direct-to-video movie or animated TV series. The monthly publishing department has no idea when its hands are tied up in knots or its head is buried in the sand'

This has to be the worst I've seen any major comic book company fall.
Marvel, in spite of its own problematic editors and writers, has nothing to fear from DC now.
The runners at DC have not a clue on how to produce consistent quality or engage the broader public for any meaningful length of time.
Seriously, the Superman lawsuit is hardly the worst thing happening now with the continued shipwreck that's been DC publishing for over a decade now'

Too bad that the same usual cheerleaders ' reviewers, comic websites, the collectors and fans grasping at straws ' aren't being honest about the situation.

Eh, honestly I find myself caring less and less about this relationship stuff. Lois & Clark will never go out? That's bullshit even if they actually mean it. Comic book inertia is stronger than that, so I say let this relationship happen. Play with the toys in weird ways for a few years, have a big storyline bringing the classic configuration back into view, it's all good! We all know that the story ends with Lois & Clark, let's mess up the path to get there.

if superman wants a super son, or daughter, he must stick with wonder-woman.

Lois couldn't possibly bear his children. its not realistic. and today's comics are 3 parts fantasy, the rest reality mixed. this opens up the possibility of twins, one evil, one good, which means 'new' heroes and villains. instead of the same old re-hashed stuff. We as fans want new heroes, with amalgam powers, with new names. let superman and all the others fall into the public domain already. that way if these whiny fan boys want their lois & clark fix, they can create their own comics based off the characters, and sell them legally.

@Andrew Collins : That's exactly the plot of Action Comics #761 way back in 2000. Supes and Diana locked in a time loop, fighting monsters for centuries, getting closer' until Clark pushes her away for Lois.

@Defiance-Defiant : Lois' pregnancy issue is explored in Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex by Larry Niven (illustrated by Curt Swan himself).

Nonsense. He and Lois could spend time on a planet with a red sun, if super conception/pregnancy would be a problem for her. This is superhero comics. Everything supposedly problematic can be easily explained or portrayed with a touch of imagination.

@GeorgeC' wow, really? Dude, you need to get a grip. 'NuDC/52' has *not* been pathetic since day 1; not across the board at least.

People such as yourself keep insisting that DC has 'thrown away' all the rich history. Technically, nothing at all has been 'thrown away'. There's nothing stopping you from re-reading all the old stories. It's just that that's the past now, and they're not going to tell new stories in the old universe.

What they've done is actually cleaned up the continuity so that the DCU is more accessible for those of us who want to get into comics. Over the past 10 years, I've bought the occasional trade, but with the new 52, I've been buying multiple titles weekly. And I'm now buying more than just from DC too. A lot of the books are very well done.

Ultimately, the change was made to bring in more readers, like me. But it also had the effect of freeing up the writers from some of the old story-lines. And as much as you may not like to hear it, not all of the old stories were great. For every 'What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?', there's gotta be at least two stories like 'Cry for Justice' or 'Emerald Twighlight.'

So, just chill out, read some of your old favorites if you want, but you should check back in with what's happening in the new 52 from time to time' There might be some new classics in the works.

The problem I have is that it seems gimmicky and a little forced. At some point Lois will be with Clark down the line.

It'll be so fuckin' HILARIOUS 2,3 years from now when WB sweeps the Didio/Harras/Johns/Lee regime out and undo all the changes they've wrought with the nuDCU' Clark going back to Lois' Joker de-zippered' Batman unafraid of 'Owls'' the Justice League back to its original and familiar line-up'

And 'New 52' fans like Truthiness and Kickpuncher above will know the sweet, sweet pain that fans of Wally West' Oracle' and Stephanie Brown are NOW suffering under the current regime.

/Big Two comics

Well its nice that DC is already saying the statement was somewhat false.

So far I've actually seen over the internet people are more willing to give this a shot then not. Cause if nothing else, they can go with, new continuity, new rules, and wait and see how the story itself plays out.

But when you have anyone who's got to play that 'never going to happen again' card and basically try to stick the knife in to the fans who care you run the potential risk of losing fans (even though most swear they'll leave and never really do).

No one should have ever made that kind of comment and just left it alone based on the announcement itself. We know at some point, some story will come along getting Lois and Clark back together. Like others have said, if Hollywood is going to essentially continue down that track for whatever they later create, at some point the main comics will find their way back to it themselves because whatever Hollywood does, the R&D department of WB (yes I'm calling DC Research and Development, hell that's what WB Corporate thinks they are anyway) will eventually fall in line.

In the meantime, new status quo, hopefully some new story ideas come out of it. Look forward to seeing where they lead.

And then I look forward to the time when Clark will be back together with Lois.

I've been reading comics since the 70's but I dropped the 'big two' in the 90's for several reasons, and one of them was I was that I thought they were in desperate need of an entire reboot. I felt that Uncanny X-Men, Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, and many of the other books that had been around for decades needed to just come to an end and be rebooted and heavily, heavily modernized. So although I haven't picked up any of the new 52 titles (happened a lil too late for me to care), I think it was a move that made sense.

To be fair, I haven't read Superman since the Doomsday thing but the last time I did, Lois was still portrayed as being kind of weak, like she always needed Superman to save her. This is the 21st century so I prefer to see Superman with Wonder Woman, she's more of his equal, she's strong and she takes care of herself and is a decent role model for young female readers, unlike Lois Lane. So yeah, I prefer those two together just like how I preferred Batman and Catwoman being together because Selina is a strong woman who can take care of herself. I also felt Lois was kind of made to look more like a groupie in the shows and comic at times, which I thought was lame. But anywho'

As a writer I've studied characters like Superman and thought of what makes them tick and how their audience reacts. So I can see the reactions on both sides of this and I'm not surprised by any of them. I don't think Lois Lane is absolutely necessary to make the character work, but I seriously don't think that Wonder Woman is the right way to go in the long term.

The fact of the matter is: there's some major problems with Superman that have caused writers to be forced into doing something just for the sake of shaking him up. Superman, for all of his great features, is hard to write dramatically for. He's so powerful and he's so idealized that it's difficult to press him and to challenge him, especially after almost a century of stories. He's lacking in human frailty and that means that, usually, it's difficult to add emotional weight to his stories. The sad thing is, in trying to make him more down to earth, they've taken it too far and we've ended up with stories like 'Grounded' in the past where he did almost literally nothing.

So with that in mind, I think the decisions made with the character for the Nu52, while interesting right now, are pushing him faster and faster into that inhuman corner they often struggle with. Wonder Woman is a thought many of us have considered in the past, but if you actually do it you're putting the near perfect man with the near perfect woman and leaving them in that zone where they don't really have to even 'fake' being human anymore. I don't have any preference for Lois Lane, she's a good character but she doesn't necessarily have to be with Superman.

In the end, it's okay that Superman's with someone else, but I still would have tried to put him with someone who could provide the human frailties that he lacks ' someone who could ground him without literally grounding him.

Frankly I don't care what DC does with Superman anymore. even Grant's New 52 Superman has left me cold. The rest of the Super-books have been mediocre to awful, including Johns' Justice League. I don't see new Superman writer, Scott Lobdell, turning this train wreck around. He is to writing what Rob Liefeld is to drawing feet. His enthusiasm is just a mask to camouflage his lack of ability.

Just don't screw up what Azz is doing on Wonder Woman. That's all I ask.

(Okay, keep Lois & Clark together in Smallville. Brian is actually writing some good Superman on that comic.)

I'd imagine Superman and Lois will get together once the movie debuts and they can have parallel romantic themes. I think that's the goal, these days.

I'm just going to continue to sit this new 52 out and wait for the real DC universe to return!

I understand the JL#12 is sold out and getting a 2nd printing'well if the wider public were so hung up on Clois or only wanted Lois why are readers willing to give the new 52 a go? Says to me there is an untapped market there and even lapsed readers who always wanted to see this. How this plays out will depend on DC. They could try and make it work and even give us good, fresh stories'Superman has never dated a woman he never had to save every other week and one who presents challeges to him as this Amazon does and Diana could be very well complimented by this new 52 version of Superman. He's not wuss, and has a real social conscience. I can tell you that much. Or DC can try to go back to Lois and Clark but I suspect that wave would not be ridden as much as this since that relationship, while a staple, is actually predictable. Did nothing much for Superman's whole. Superman was considered broken pretty much and creatiovely stagnant for years. This new 52 allows DC to shake it up. Good for them.

I'm not a very big Superman fan, but this is kinda ridiculous. How much do you wanna bet they have an editorial mandate now that says, 'Superman and Lois can't date'?

Why limit your creators like that? It just seems like DC doesn't have any idea of where it's going in the New52.

The only title that seems to have any focus is Wonder Woman, and it's the best book they've got. The rest, even my beloved Green Lantern books, don't seem like they have any long-term plans.

DC = Disappointing Comics

DC finally did it.

My girlfriend who has never read comic books pulled out all 11 Justice League issues of mine and read them the day she found out Superman and Wonder Woman would begin their romance. We've discussed comic books in the past and she never understood why they've never hooked up in the past.

Now that they are'she's on board. And now that's she's read 11 issues of Justice League'she's hooked.

I remember an old alternate futur from Superman in the 60's.. where he would marry different gals..; each mariage did end in disaster.. (Superman with Super-woman isnt a good thing)

Alan moore did it some years ago on its take on Supreme.. 'A mariage Supreme' (same storie as the ones tolds in the 60's, only with supreme and moore's vocable) Superman with a super-woman only ends in disaster

WXithout its hold, on down to earth things .. without someone totally human to bring him to the heights of human beings, superman , as anyman with power' will loose touch with 'The Base'

I thought Lois should've been dumped decades ago. How could Superman, with his super mind, be attracted to a woman who is so dumb she can't recognize that Clark is Superman with glasses on? It would be like dating a cocker spaniel.

If only this was the real Superman dumping Lois! But it isn't even Superman ' it's a guy in a Jim Lee 1990's costume who merely resembles Superman. With Jim Lee designing, I guess we should be grateful he doesn't have a leather jacket on top of his blue body armor!

This is SO silly' where are the good ideas?
DC don't have a clue these days.

And Johns on Justice League is a TOTAL let down.

Fun idea, hope they get some interesting material out of it. Hooray for storytelling!

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The safe surrealism of 'Jughead's Diner'

The safe surrealism of 'Jughead's Diner'

In this week's What Are You Reading?, I mentioned that Jughead Double Digest #182 includes a strange, surrealistic story from 1990, 'Jughead's Diner.' The Archie folks were kind enough to share a couple of pages with Robot 6 so you can see what I was talking about. The intro to the story is done in blue and gray tones, and when Jughead is transported, on the page above, the palette shifts into full color and the panels start getting crowded. It's written by Dan Parent (who later would create Archie's first openly gay character, Kevin Keller) and illustrated by Bill Golliher.

Like Archie's Mad House, this wanders off the Riverdale reservation but never gets too edgy. On the other hand, it's fun to see Parent and Golliher playing with the basic ingredients and coming up with new characters, even if most of them only have a few lines.

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If this is the high point of Archie 'weird' I'm glad I'm not reading any of the books. Also: deep-fried sprouts don't look like that, and aren't health food.

The page does get better if you read the rhyming waitresses in Wordsworth's voice (from Heatcliff).

I swear this was a series at one point. I remember picking up an issue of 'Jughead's Diner' that was an homage to The Blob and included jokes about Charo, the chef being a heroic mad scientist of some sort, and Esther Rolle (who was drawn looking understandably confused). It was the strangest thing that Archie had put out, and considering my childhood Archie comics include a book where Jughead grew to Godzilla size after eating plastic flamingos, that's saying something.

I loved this comic when it originally came out. It was utterly bizarre for an Archie comic and yet somehow familiar at the same time. After the first issue, every issue gave the spotlight to a different character but still managed to keep Jughead front and center. I always wonder about the background characters who didn't get an issue; was there stuff planned for each of them that never saw print?

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Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Editor Ben Abernathy leaves DC Comics for Madefire

Editor Ben Abernathy leaves DC Comics for Madefire

Ben Abernathy, who left DC Comics last week after more than a decade with the company ' most recently as digital editor ' has joined Madefire, the innovative motion-comics company launched last year by Ben Wolstenholme, Liam Sharp and Eugene Walden.

'About two years ago Ben [Wolstenholme] and I realized there would be a point very early on where Madefire needed a full-time editor ' if all went to plan!' Sharp tells ComicBooked.com. 'We started to draft a wish-list ' and it barely got past one! Ben Abernathy!'

Abernathy, who worked briefly for Dark Horse and Marvel, was senior editor of WildStorm until the imprint was closed in 2010 amid a corporate restructuring and he was moved with other staff to DC's West Coast digital division. '' Ultimately, the industry is heading to a predominantly digital delivery and that's not a reflection whatsoever on the direct market or the print publishers'it's just a reality based on technology and the evolving audience,' Abernathy says in a Q&A on the Madefire website. 'From the position I held at DC, I had the opportunity to see some of the reading tools being developed for the industry, and from the moment I saw Madefire's work, I could tell they were ahead of the curve. Way ahead. And you're right: I wouldn't be answering these questions if I didn't believe that 100 percent and wasn't committed to doing everything possible to help facilitate this next step.'

Madefire, which launched its free iPad app in June with motion comics by Dave Gibbons, Robbie Morrison, Sharp and others, is pushing into weekly content that includes new 'Motion Books' by the likes of Haden Blackman, Gary Erskine, Guy Adams and Jimmy Broxton. The Motion Books boast an 'immersive experience' that goes well beyond the motion comics to which most readers are accustomed.

'For a long time, we've been trying to get content into comic books that is something more than just action, something other than just what appeals to a younger audience,' Gibbons tells USA Today. 'And I think with Madefire, we have got the ability to do that, given that a lot of our early adopters are going to be comic-book readers or movie aficionados. There are certain genres which are inherently more popular or more in-tune with those demographics, but I'm really looking forward to branching out both thematically, and in the actual depiction of events, into new and different areas.'

  • August 28, 2012 @ 08:00 AM by Kevin Melrose
  • Tagged: Dave Gibbons, DC Comics, DC Digital, digital comics, iPad, ipad comics, Liam Sharp, Madefire, Motion Comics, Wildstorm

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It's like rats from a sinking ship.

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Alex Segura returns to DC as executive director of publicity

Alex Segura returns to DC as executive director of publicity

Alex Segura has rejoined DC Entertainment as executive director of publicity, he announced today at The Source.

He previously served as publicity manager at the publisher from 2006 to 2010 before taking the job as executive director of publicity and marketing at Archie Comics, where he also wrote last year's four-part Archie Meets KISS story. He was promoted in June to vice president ' publicity and marketing.

'This is an important time at DC Entertainment. And a great time to be DC Entertainment. The New 52 is in full swing,' Segura wrote at The Source. 'The company is crackling with a creative energy that's never been seen before ' in comics and beyond. And while I could take up a lot of Internet real estate listing all the great things coming up, we'll save that for later. Short version: big stuff is happening. Get ready.'

Segura will report to Courtney Simmons, senior vice president of publicity. His hiring likely fills the void left by the departure in April of Vice President of Publicity David Hyde, who had been with the company for nearly nine years.

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And right now DC could use a director of publicity

Congrats Alex!

Congrats, old buddy.

Archie meets KISS, huh? So he's got some writing credits under his belt?

Because I think I read somewhere a couple of DCs titles need a new writer'

I would prefer that all of DC just goes back to 2006.

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It's Jack Kirby's birthday, and everybody is celebrating!

It's Jack Kirby's birthday, and everybody is celebrating!

Jack Kirby would have been 95 today, and celebrations are breaking out all over the comics blogosphere. Here's a quick guide; feel free to post more links in comments.

' Tom Spurgeon, as always, has a comprehensive lineup of panels and pages and videos.

' Follow the Twitter hashtag #WakeUpAndDraw today to see birthday cards created by 100 different artists to benefit The Hero Initiative, which will auction off the originals in the near future.

' Today's a good day to buy yourself some comics: Kirby's granddaughter Jillian Kirby has started the Kirby4Heroes campaign, in which comics stores donate a percentage of their sales from today to The Hero Initiative.

' Diversions of the Groovy Kind celebrates with splash pages ' lots of 'em!

' John Kane sets off some visual fireworks with a roundup of Kirby's sound effects at The Savage Critics.

' Richard Bruton narrows his focus to Kirby's Mister Miracle comics at the Forbidden Planet blog.

' Steven Brower meditates on the genius of Jack Kirby at The Kirby Effect, the blog of the Jack Kirby Museum.

' And finally, stand up and be counted, because it's Read Comics in Public Day ' for everyone!

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Monday, August 27, 2012

Comics A.M. | The Oatmeal creator raises $1M for Tesla museum

Comics A.M. | The Oatmeal creator raises $1M for Tesla museum

Nikola Tesla

Crowdfunding | Matthew Inman, creator of The Oatmeal, raised $1 million in just over a week on Indiegogo to help fund the restoration of Nikola Tesla's laboratory as a museum, surpassing the $850,000 goal. 'THANK YOU SO GODDAMN MUCH,' Inman wrote on his blog. 'WE ARE GOING TO BUILD A GODDAMN TESLA MUSEUM.' There are still 34 days left in the funding campaign. [The Associated Press, The Oatmeal]

Publishing | Warren Simons, executive editor of Valiant Entertainment, discusses gathering the talent for the Valiant relaunch, refining the characters for modern-day tastes, and keeping the books accessible to new readers. He also gives some hints about what to expect from Valiant's upcoming series Shadowman. [Previews World]

The Underwater Welder

Creators | In Toronto for Fan Expo Canada, Jeff Lemire talks about his dual life as a creator for DC Comics and doing indie work: 'Normally those two worlds ' the superheroes and the independent stuff ' don't mix but I note with The Underwater Welder that people who read my DC stuff are checking it out. I think I put my unique voice into all my work and people respond to that.' [Toronto Globe and Mail]

Creators | Derek Kirk Kim talks about the manhwa he read as a child in Korea, why he likes filmmaking, and the dangers of being pigeonholed by his readers: 'Same Difference was great in that it kickstarted my professional career (as in being able to make a living solely doing art), but it sort of painted me into this corner as well. I get people saying things like, I need to 'get back to my roots' or 'TUNE sucks and it's surprising coming from the guy who did Same Difference.' ' The thing is, even before Same Difference, I was doing genre-infused work. I want to do everything and anything. But it's kind of hard to win over the same audience who only know and like you for one specific thing.' [MTV Geek]

Comics | Tom Spurgeon takes the cost of the full run of DC's Before Watchmen comics ' about $145 ' and puts together 13 alternative comics packages that readers could get for about the same price. [The Comics Reporter]

Dotter of Her Father's Eyes

Creators | Bryan and Mary Talbot discussed their collaboration on Dotter of Her Father's Eyes at the Edinburgh Book Festival. [Forbidden Planet]

Creators | Grant Morrison was at the Edinburgh Book Festival as well, and he talked about Supergods to a packed room, despite the late hour. [Forbidden Planet]

Creators | Alex Dueben talks to Bianca Stone, who creates poetry comics, which are just what they sound like. [The Comics Journal]

Comics | Image Comics co-founder Jim Valentino shares his thoughts on the potential of comics to reach different audiences in a brief video interview. [Sequart]

Competitions | Scottish publisher DC Thomson (The Beano, The Dandy) and The University of Dundee are co-sponsoring the second annual Dundee Comics Prize; this year's challenge is to resurrect the 1940s Dandy character The Amazing Mr. X and make him relevant to modern readers. [Forbidden Planet]

  • August 27, 2012 @ 06:55 AM by Brigid Alverson
  • Tagged: Before Watchmen, Bianca Stone, Bryan Talbot, comic books, comics a.m., DC Comics, DC Thomson, Derek Kirk Kim, grant morrison, graphic novels, Image Comics, indiegogo, jeff lemire, Jim Valentino, Mary Talbot, Matthew Inman, The Dandy, Valiant Entertainment, Warren Simons, webcomics

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Why would the Oatmeal's success be classified as 'confounding'? Visitors already helped the site surpass its charity donation against the copyright infringement lawsuit, and had already crashed the donation site on its first day for the Tesla museum because Inman makes a valid case:

Nikola Tesla was a genius. There's no monument to him. And this was Tesla's main lab ' who's other alternative was to be paved over for a strip mall by some Russian. Quite frankly, in the choice between a strip mall and a monument to the man who helped create the light bulb, it's not hard to see why people are putting their money in the latter, is it?

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